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June 2nd, 2016 Cristy "Pandora" Ramadani Controversy 25 comments

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Dota 2 Stars Arena and Solid Dota 2 Challenge – two tournaments organized by Chris Lombard – have yet to pay out $9,000 in prize money to the winning teams despite having received the funds from sponsors. All four winning teams – ProDota Gaming, Flipsid3 Tactics, Power Rangers and Danish Bears – have confirmed that the organizer has failed to pay or respond to any attempt at contact since the tournaments concluded. LootMarket, one of the sponsors, has also confirmed that Lombard was paid the $4,000 prize pool for Solid Dota 2 Challenge.

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For the teams that miss out on the bigger prize pools of The International, the Majors and other premium LAN events, online tournaments are the ideal platform and the most common place for players to gain their earnings and momentum.

The process is simple. The organizer contracts with a sponsor. Teams compete against each other. People tune in to watch them play. Some teams win and then are paid. The sponsor pays the organizer – who in turn pays the teams. Or doesn’t.

ProDota Gaming won Dota 2 Stars Arena and were supposed to receive $3,000. PR seemingly secured a handsome $2,000 for the second place in the same competition.

A few weeks later, Flipsid3 Tactics (then known as !Rebels!) won the Solid Dota 2 Challenge. The CIS team was anticipating a $2,500 prize, while the runners-up, Danish Bears, were counting on their $1,500 share.

What do those four teams have in common? They’ve competed in different tournaments organized by the same person – a seemingly well intentioned guy who didn’t raise any red flags at first, but disappeared without a trace when it came to paying out the owed prize money.

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Both Dota 2 Stars Arena and Solid Dota 2 Challenge were organized by the same person, Chris Lombard, in March and April, respectively.

At the time, Chris Lombard was not a known figure in the scene. It has become almost a commonplace of the Dota 2 scene for smaller online tournaments ran by new faces to pop up all over the place.

When Lombard approached ProDota Gaming, Power Rangers, Flipsid3 Tactics (then known as !Rebels!) and Danish Bears, none of the teams hesitated to accept the invites to his events. They didn’t question Lombard’s legitimacy, as valid sponsors such as LootMarket and GameKit were already in place. LootMarket sponsored Solid Dota 2 Challenge, providing the $4,000 prize pool, while GameKit handed over the $5,000 prize fund for Dota 2 Stars Arena.

A normally responsive and active organizer during the course of the events, Lombard has since become unresponsive and Missing in Action.

For smaller online events, most teams typically get their prize money in 30 days upon the tournament’s completion. When that time came and went, the teams started making inquiries, and rightfully so.

ProDota Gaming manager Ivan “Ivan” Karpov has told DotaBlast that he has tried multiple times to make contact with Chris Lombard. According to Karpov, Lombard told him earlier in May that the sponsor, GameKit, had deposited the owed prize money directly into the bank account provided by the team. Since the money didn’t go through, ProDota Gaming reached out to Lombard again, but to no avail.

ProDota Gaming owner and CEO Maxym “Max” Dyakonyuk has stated:

Unfortunately, there is nothing to say. Everything is crystal clear – it’s just simply fraud.

Power Rangers manager Nikita “BigStar” Shastakou has confirmed that his team has also not been paid or managed to have any contact with Chris Lombard.

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j4, Power Rangers © Power Rangers

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Flipsid3 Tactics and Danish Bears are in the very same situation, but for a different tournament. After trying to seek out Lombard, they went directly to LootMarket to track down their earnings. LootMarket provided them with proof of paying Chris Lombard via PayPal almost immediately upon the tournament’s completion.

It is sad that things that were happening in 2012-2014, when we were more heavily involved in Dota, still persist. It is my advise to any sponsors of smaller, less reputable events to make sure their money goes straight to the players. As a tournament organizer myself in Dota (long ago) and other games (CSGO, SF5), if a sponsor took responsibility for paying players it would be a load off. You can de-compartmentalize your production staff from your players via sponsor payouts. You can use one to pay players and one to pay yourselves (for a very easy example). Sponsors who do not want to be involved in this mess should focus more on making sure their names do not end up in these situations. I feel for LootMarket in this situation and I feel terrible for our players. As a community, I think it’s time we start forcing newer organizations who want to run tournaments to do it our way and not the other way around. It is 2016 and it is absolutely embarrassing that this continues.

– Hector “Frost” Rosario, Flipsid3 Tactics owner and CEO

LootMarket has no basis on which to dispute the transaction or request a refund from PayPal or the organizer, since Lombard upheld his end of the agreement. Kevin Wimer, LootMarket CEO, explains:

Our agreement with Chris Lombard was pretty simple. We pay him for a certain set of deliverables / exposure (overlays, links, on-air site usage, etc). He was pretty easy to work with and the results were great for us. I’m not sure how we can help to prevent this from happening in the future, since compensation to the winners falls outside of the scope of our involvement. I can assure everyone that we will not be cooperating with Mr. Lombard again for any events.

DotaBlast has reached out to Chris Lombard and has not yet received a response.

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Notorious cases of tournament organizers gone rogue

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While Valve maintains a permissive free market approach, not holding any exclusivity rights to tournaments, anyone with money or a plan can submit a request to Valve for an in-game ticket and hold an online or LAN event. The process is relatively simple and open to all.

The results can be detrimental to the players when an event is organized by someone with bad intentions, looking to make a quick dollar or milk the cash cow.

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  • Back when he was playing for Basically Unknown, Ionuț “Ar1sE” Turtoi talked to DotaBlast about the challenges of being on a sponsorless team:

    Basically Unknown did not have a sponsor, nor did we win a lot of tournament money. For a group of younger, starting players financial security is very important, it generates confidence and motivation. Not only did we not have a sponsor, but also most of the tournaments that we’ve won so far have yet to pay the prize money, some being delayed longer than three months.

  • A year ago, Burden United, 4 Clovers and Lepricon and London Conspiracy were invited to attend DOT.Fair – a LAN tournament featuring $15,000 cash prizes. The organizers decided to pull the plug on the event, leaving the teams to foot the bill.

It is not always the smaller, sponsorless teams that are affected.

  • Major All Stars failed to pay champions Invictus Gaming, after more than a year since the tournament’s completion.
  • Infamously, WCA has yet to pay out prize money owed for tournaments held in June and December of 2015.

    Alliance won the WCA 2015 in December and is entitled to a prize of $370,200. According to the team’s former manager, Kelly Ong Xiao Wei, the prize had not been paid as of March. Jimmy “Demon” Ho was a part of the Summer’s Rift lineup that took first place in the Americas Pro Qualifiers, in June 2015, and should have received the $50,000 first place prize. According to Ho, that didn’t happen either, more than eight months later.

    DotaBlast reached out to WCA for clarification two months ago, but has not received an answer as of yet.

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Pandora is a behind the scenes Dota 2 professional Jack of All Trades ranging from team manager, social media staff, business consultant, board of director member, visa guru, Garter's waifu. When not busy with Dota 2 work, she is out trying to save the world or baking cupcakes. Follow her on Twitter @pandoradota2

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25 Comments

  1. Avolus
    (137 comments) Reply ↓

    This is really sad…shows how the public still can not take eSports seriously and just use it as a way of fraud…hope these teams get their money somehow.

    June 2, 2016 at 3:51 pm
    1. 935ice
      (969 comments) Reply ↓

      Dude its not the public. Its the organizer of the tournament. The public community takes esports really serious.

      June 2, 2016 at 5:11 pm
      1. nivsipipsy
        (306 comments)

        agreeed $$$$

        June 19, 2016 at 3:12 pm
      2. bakala
        (868 comments)

        Yeah, let’s not generalize this.

        June 26, 2016 at 12:26 am
    2. bakala
      (868 comments) Reply ↓

      I don’t think It has anything to do with esports being taken seriously. Some people are douchebags, that’s the bottom line. A life lesson for the organizers, and a sad story for the players involved.

      June 3, 2016 at 3:04 am
    3. nivsipipsy
      (306 comments) Reply ↓

      yes. teams should participate and act like as a team

      June 19, 2016 at 3:10 pm
      1. bakala
        (868 comments)

        This has nothing to do with the teams man, it’s the organizer

        June 26, 2016 at 12:27 am
    4. nivsipipsy
      (306 comments) Reply ↓

      this is really sad for the teams that did their best

      June 19, 2016 at 3:16 pm
    5. nivsipipsy
      (306 comments) Reply ↓

      $$$$$$$$$$$$$$ > PRINCIPLE

      June 19, 2016 at 3:21 pm
  2. 935ice
    (969 comments) Reply ↓

    There will always be a bad guy in every scenario in life. This one is just in the most shitty kind of humans. No respect for the players, sponsors and the community. Instead of building esports for a better future they become blinded by $$$$$$$$$. Hope this guy will be found be thrown to jail.

    June 2, 2016 at 5:15 pm
    1. bakala
      (868 comments) Reply ↓

      Still haven’t heard of anyone ending up in jail for scamming dota teams… Not saying that he doesn’t deserve it

      June 3, 2016 at 3:09 am
      1. nivsipipsy
        (306 comments)

        TOOURNEYS BACK THEN DOTA1 ALSO DO THIS.

        June 19, 2016 at 3:20 pm
  3. Avolus
    (137 comments) Reply ↓

    when i say public i mean people in general, and yes…if they were taking this seriously…you would not see people scamming other people that easy…

    June 3, 2016 at 3:41 pm
    1. nivsipipsy
      (306 comments) Reply ↓

      EZ $$$ FOR ORGANIZERS

      June 19, 2016 at 3:21 pm
      1. bakala
        (868 comments)

        Sadly, it appears to be the case. No updates on this, guess they got away with it

        June 26, 2016 at 12:31 am
    2. bakala
      (868 comments) Reply ↓

      Dude, don’t pin one man’s behavior to the whole community… It has nothing to do with being taken seriously, some people are just *** and that’s it

      June 26, 2016 at 12:29 am
  4. Raitokun
    (11 comments) Reply ↓

    so sad for the winning teams, I hope they can have their prize money soon.

    June 4, 2016 at 3:22 am
    1. nivsipipsy
      (306 comments) Reply ↓

      I WISH THIS WILL BE ON LAW ON THE FUTURE

      June 19, 2016 at 3:22 pm
    2. bakala
      (868 comments) Reply ↓

      Doesn’t look so right now.

      June 26, 2016 at 12:28 am
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    […] abwegig wäre das Szenario durchaus nicht, denn auch Hector Rosario, Besitzer von Flipsid3, kennt ein solches Verhalten von Veranstaltern nur zu gut. Das jedoch auch noch im Jahr 2016 die […]

    June 4, 2016 at 3:25 am
    1. nivsipipsy
      (306 comments) Reply ↓

      FEELS BAD FOR THEM..

      June 19, 2016 at 3:25 pm
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    […] A tournament organizer has allegedly failed to pay the winners of two of his events $9,000 in prize money, DotaBlast reports. […]

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      (306 comments) Reply ↓

      SAD 4 THEM

      June 19, 2016 at 3:24 pm
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    (3 comments) Reply ↓

    Sux to hear that

    July 8, 2016 at 1:29 pm
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